(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[US Open Masters Division, Round 2, Board 3 - Gan, Jianing, 7 Dan (W) - Song, Zirui, 1 Dan Pro(B)]PW[Gan, Jianing]PB[Song, Zirui]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2014-08-10]EV[US Open Masters Division]RO[Round 3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dave Weimer]C[hooloovoo [3k?\]: When is it supposed to start?
miniruto [2k\]: http://www.gocongress.org/2014/content_categories/30
miniruto [2k\]: so in about 7mn
USGO3 [-\]: Game begins at 7:10 EST
miniruto [2k\]: so 17mn
USGO3 [-\]: players are setting clocks--- 90 minutes per player
coby [4k\]: anyone know who the players are
USGO3 [-\]: Gan 7d vs Song 1p
USGO3 [-\]: Gan is from Canada
zao: Go Gan!
coby [4k\]: ill cheer for Gan to then  :D
USGO3 [-\]: Song is a high school student in the us from China
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]C[roln1111 [-\]: Yay, I got here early
]
;W[qp]C[coby [4k\]: man so he is my age this makes me feel bad about my self
]
;B[dc]C[roln1111 [-\]: they are about my age too
roln1111 [-\]: if it makes u feel any better ^^
coby [4k\]: whats your rank
]
;W[cp]
;B[de]
;W[eq]
;B[cj]
;W[qf]C[roln1111 [-\]: I guess I'll cheer for gan
]
;B[nc]
;W[pj]
;B[jd]C[atiyah [2d?\]: i've been watching too many kgs games, i'm not used to actual fuseki
]
;W[nq]C[OutofShape [9k\]: is that means they r innovating ?
]
;B[cm]
;W[of]C[atiyah [2d?\]: not so far, everything is pretty normal
]
;B[jp]C[roln1111 [-\]: what is considered actual fuseki?
roln1111 [-\]: as opposed to non-actual fuseki
]
;W[hq]
;B[io]C[roln1111 [-\]: but I prefer b's position here
grokoth [3k\]: roln,  thank you
]
;W[cd]C[grokoth [3k\]: I don't know why,  but it always bugs me when people say stuff like "I like black" when they actually mean "I like black's position"
lance [1k\]: get used to it
grokoth [3k\]: I know what you mean, lance. 
grokoth [3k\]: I never say anything.
grokoth [3k\]: I just...  I don't know,  somehow expect better from the Go community
grokoth [3k\]: We think we're smart, after all..
grokoth [3k\]: ^_^
roln1111 [-\]: yeah but saying "i like b" is quicker for us nu-skool txtspeekers
ImChance [-\]: you know what we mean in the context of watching a go game...
]
;B[ce]
;W[cc]
;B[dd]C[ImChance [-\]: do you think someone is starting a political campaign against a race on a go server? 
roln1111 [-\]: now i prefer b even more
roln1111 [-\]: strong walls
lance [1k\]: I like Black
roln1111 [-\]: good influence
einstein [6d\]: W has now achieved his goal in the top left
coby [4k\]: well black is a pro
roln1111 [-\]: what goal einstein?
dogbert [4d\]: ko live at least
coby [4k\]: if he doesnt win ill feel bad cause he is black as well
einstein [6d\]: The goal was to find out the aji - now W can play d18 e18 b18 to make life OR ko.
]
;W[ei]C[einstein [6d\]: d11 is far too close
einstein [6d\]: ahhhh. e11 looks a little more reasonable
USGO3 [-\]: sorry, recorder error
einstein [6d\]: d12 would be bad
dogbert [4d\]: aa
TTL [1d\]: So if it's too close, how do you respond?
einstein [6d\]: e10 f10 f11 is ideal
dogbert [4d\]: F10
TTL [1d\]: I mean d11, how do you respond to that as black?
roln1111 [-\]: d10 maybe
einstein [6d\]: So in exchange for W having taking 50% of the corner, B has gotten stronger on both sides
lance [1k\]: black is so thick
dogbert [4d\]: Go Canada...
einstein [6d\]: Therefore W is now trying to wipe out the influence before making the ko in the top left
roln1111 [-\]: can b g11?
dogbert [4d\]: if b go nuts b could F10
miniruto [2k\]: wouldn't have been better wiping it out before ?
roln1111 [-\]: I prefer g11 to f10
]
;B[ql]
;W[ol]C[lance [1k\]: how will black settle?
roln1111 [-\]: o7
Fafhrd [3k\]: at my modest level, r8 looks like a mistake -- puts two weak groups on the board subject to a roundabout attack
roln1111 [-\]: i want to o7
roln1111 [-\]: p7
roln1111 [-\]: *p7
lance [1k\]: j5 not weak
]
;B[qn]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: perhaps it will be if white gets thickness on the right... and trying to escape j5 could damage c7?
lance [1k\]: e11 will become a hostage
roln1111 [-\]: ^ lance
roln1111 [-\]: it already looks like one tbh
roln1111 [-\]: but so does r6 and 68
roln1111 [-\]: r8
]
;W[dk]
;B[dj]
;W[ej]C[TTL [1d\]: W dared B to cut and so he did, I don't think W will get a good result here.
]
;B[ek]C[roln1111 [-\]: yeah I think b is gonna profit
]
;W[dl]
;B[fk]C[roln1111 [-\]: bet somethings gonna die
roln1111 [-\]: probably w
lance [1k\]: black thickness big asset
TTL [1d\]: Extending even though the ladder was good for B, that's interesting.
atiyah [2d?\]: going back a bit, can anyone convincingly explain the point of c16
TTL [1d\]: I guess the E11 area was worth more to black than the C7 area is to white.
roln1111 [-\]: I think extending is good
einstein [6d\]: ???
einstein [6d\]: I don't pay attention for 5 minutes and it is a mess already
roln1111 [-\]: ha
einstein [6d\]: r8 should be at e10 f10 f11 
roln1111 [-\]: pay attention man ^^
einstein [6d\]: The reason is that B should isolate and attack e11 
einstein [6d\]: But he invaded the right side
lance [1k\]: looks like that is what he is doing
einstein [6d\]: not so bad, but not so urgent
einstein [6d\]: so W tried to connect e11 with e3 by playing d9 
atiyah [2d?\]: the way this is playing out i am growing convinced that c16 was devastatingly wrong
einstein [6d\]: B realized his mistake and started a fight
einstein [6d\]: Well, e11 was too close to B's thickness. That doesn't mean c16 was wrong
einstein [6d\]: That is a mistake in thinking/logic
]
;W[hn]C[lance [1k\]: what a fight
roln1111 [-\]: YOLO
lance [1k\]: what is the logic of this position?
atiyah [2d?\]: after the c16 exchange, it was hard to *not* be too close to b's thickness
roln1111 [-\]: the logic of this position is YOLO
dmwit [3k?\]: "more weak groups is more fun" - dmwit, 2014
roln1111 [-\]: :)
roln1111 [-\]: Seconded
roln1111 [-\]: especially when the weak groups are the opponents
]
;B[em]C[einstein [6d\]: h6 looks like one fat overplay
Fafhrd [3k\]: e7 was the move i was expecting from w
einstein [6d\]: Probably he should have played e7 or d7 
Fafhrd [3k\]: but he may have felt he didn't have time
einstein [6d\]: The purpose would be to take sente on the left in order to play g10 (light) or g11 (heavy), depending on what would happen.
roln1111 [-\]: didn't have time in a 90 minute game?
atiyah [2d?\]: not that kind of time
einstein [6d\]: No, he means that other things were more important
einstein [6d\]: But they were not
roln1111 [-\]: oh
roln1111 [-\]: i thought you meant as in a timesuji
einstein [6d\]: no, time is a relative and fluid thing
Fafhrd [3k\]: if we7, then black maybe g11
]
;W[dm]
;B[dn]C[einstein [6d\]: w can think of b8 b7 b9 b10 d7 d6 c6 now
]
;W[en]C[einstein [6d\]: d7 d6 looks like a bad mistake - is that true?
]
;B[cl]C[einstein [6d\]: Yes because B c8 now 
einstein [6d\]: and it is over
]
;W[do]C[einstein [6d\]: W can resign
]
;B[cn]
;W[fn]C[einstein [6d\]: except if he kills j5 on a very large scale
atiyah [2d?\]: fastest usgo game?
einstein [6d\]: e10 have lost their significance
roln1111 [-\]: why can w resign?
miniruto [2k\]:  k4or  j5 
atiyah [2d?\]: when seven of your stones die uselessly by move 40, you can generally resign
miniruto [2k\]: not seven
einstein [6d\]: In general, the game is over because W has failed in all of his strategic goals
miniruto [2k\]: c17 can make a ko...
roln1111 [-\]: atiyah comebacks occur
atiyah [2d?\]: why would you trade death for even more pathetic than death?
]
;B[gi]C[einstein [6d\]: However, life is stranger than fiction, and that is even truer for death.
]
;W[jm]C[einstein [6d\]: g11 means that if W plays e8, B f8 f7 c9 e7 h9 
einstein [6d\]: So if either k4 or r6 dies - which is quite possible, W can still win
einstein [6d\]: But that's called gambling
einstein [6d\]: So before the game was 55-45 (after e11 ) NOW, it is 65-35
ssaw [3d\]: if 65:35, why resign
]
;B[oo]C[dmwit [3k?\]: for honor
roln1111 [-\]: only resign if 0:100
lance [1k\]: This takes strong nerves
ssaw [3d\]: board is still big
miniruto [2k\]: if you see you are late, you have to try something ,that's all, isn't it ?
]
;W[pn]C[lance [1k\]: black had to expect this move
]
;B[po]
;W[qo]
;B[oq]C[dmwit [3k?\]: very tough fight for W
dmwit [3k?\]: too many balls for me to juggle
]
;W[pq]
;B[or]
;W[qm]
;B[rn]C[lance [1k\]: white very busy
]
;W[rm]C[dmwit [3k?\]: cut first think later
dmwit [3k?\]: what is B afraid of here
]
;B[qq]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: perhaps lower side dies, and right side still needing a move to live?
Fafhrd [3k\]: ... if instead of r3, br7,wp6, bs8 that is
]
;W[rq]
;B[qr]
;W[on]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[pp]
;W[sp]
;B[no]
;W[if]C[lance [1k\]: another fight?
dmwit [3k?\]: Seems B lives pretty big
wsn [4k\]: This move looks similar to E11
]
;B[jf]
;W[jg]
;B[ig]
;W[hf]C[Uberdude [3d\]: it worked so well last time
Uberdude [3d\]: better do it again
Uberdude [3d\]: black well in control
]
;B[jh]
;W[je]C[Uberdude [3d\]: give a ponnuki eh
]
;B[kg]
;W[kf]
;B[kd]
;W[hg]
;B[ih]
;W[id]
;B[ic]
;W[hc]
;B[hd]
;W[ie]
;B[gc]
;W[hb]
;B[ib]
;W[ke]
;B[gb]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]
;W[kc]
;B[jc]
;W[mc]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: might w be short of time?  these moves are coming very quickly
beeracc [3k\]: m15  and kill all? :D
USGO3 [-\]: w has 45 min; b has 31 min left
Fafhrd [3k\]: thanks USG
lance [1k\]: if m15 white will link out
]
;B[md]
;W[lb]
;B[le]
;W[lf]
;B[lc]C[sdrer: owe
]
;W[gh]
;B[hi]
;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[jb]
;B[lc]C[Uberdude [3d\]: d18 b18 no ko now
]
;W[fh]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: is black's center in danger now?
Merlot [1k\]: no
]
;B[fm]
;W[ld]
;B[ha]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: it seems black thought it was :P
]
;W[nb]
;B[oc]
;W[ob]
;B[pb]
;W[qc]C[ZT1LB [1d\]: players?
]
;B[pc]
;W[ma]
;B[lc]
;W[fj]
;B[hk]
;W[ld]
;B[ng]
;W[mf]
;B[lc]C[ZT1LB [1d\]: and tournament,
Fafhrd [3k\]: all labeled on the screen, ZT1LB?
]
;W[gk]
;B[gl]
;W[ld]C[ZT1LB [1d\]: mobile client can't see
Fafhrd [3k\]: ah... US Open Masters Division, Round 2.  w Gan, Jianing, 7D, b Song, Zirui 1p
]
;B[nf]
;W[ne]
;B[lc]C[ZT1LB [1d\]: ty
]
;W[gj]
;B[il]
;W[ld]
;B[nd]
;W[oe]
;B[re]
;W[rf]
;B[lc]
;W[gm]
;B[ck]
;W[ld]
;B[rc]
;W[lh]
;B[sf]
;W[sg]
;B[se]
;W[qe]
;B[qd]
;W[rg]
;B[ir]
;W[ch]
;B[bf]C[globax [3d\]: k9 ?
Fafhrd [3k\]: maybe w needs to keep ko threats to keep top group alive?
]
;W[mo]C[coby [4k\]: im back after like 2 hours and the games still going on XD
einstein [6d\]: Yeah, they mentioned that. And they decided to prolong the game for that reason.
coby [4k\]: aw thats so sweet of them :D
einstein [6d\]: exactly
]
;B[mp]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]
;W[ko]
;B[mn]
;W[kp]
;B[jq]
;W[ln]
;B[kn]
;W[mo]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: i was expecting m7?
]
;B[lm]
;W[lo]
;B[lq]
;W[nn]
;B[kq]
;W[mm]
;B[jo]
;W[mn]
;B[pr]
;W[lc]
;B[gr]
;W[jk]
;B[hj]
;W[im]
;B[hl]
;W[gq]
;B[fr]
;W[er]
;B[li]
;W[mi]
;B[lg]
;W[mg]
;B[kh]
;W[mh]C[trumie [2d\]: B ahead no?
]
;B[lj]C[USGO3 [-\]: b in overtime
]
;W[hr]
;B[hs]
;W[bo]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: my count is close to even on the board?
]
;B[co]
;W[eo]
;B[bp]
;W[bq]C[Fafhrd [3k\]: but several big points remaining
]
;B[ll]
;W[km]
;B[bn]
;W[ap]C[miniruto [2k\]: I think White is ahead Trumie
]
;B[jl]C[USGO3 [-\]: white resigned
miniruto [2k\]: ahah ok
trumie [2d\]: ;-)
Mysto [?\]: now im lost lol
miniruto [2k\]: neglected this point
USGO3 [-\]: white thought more than 5 behind
Mysto [?\]: l9 still connects out O.o
Mysto [?\]: just seems an odd move to resign on lol
xedover [?\]: thanks usgo3
Fafhrd [3k\]: thanks, USGO
Mysto [?\]: nm
sdrer: b has h7
Mysto [?\]: i misread lol
Mysto [?\]: l9 l8 m9 n9 n10 k10 
Mysto [?\]: silly of me
USGO3 [-\]: Good night---hope you will join us tomorrow
])
